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Thursday, July 20th, 2006

Marbury - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Geographical trivia: It turns out that the name Marbury has more venerable connections than our beloved spot in southern Maryland. I happened to do a search on the Web and found that in merrie olde Englande there is a Marbury, with a rather more impressive church than any of ours.

Interested as I am in history, I thought others might be also, thus this link. It appears there is a Marbury in Alabama as well as ours in Maryland, but this one in England has us beat for history, at least.

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Friday, June 2nd, 2006

Does the church ever send a mixed message?

Marbury Church of God information

Wednesday, May 24th, 2006

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Brief announcement (and invitation)

Thursday, April 20th, 2006

I’ve established an automated e-mail list for members and friends of the Marbury Church of God. To subscribe, send a blank e-mail to churchnews-subscribe@seethekingdom.net. You’ll be able to get news, prayer requests, updates and announcements.

Farewell to a friend

Thursday, April 20th, 2006

Hollis Pistole
Hollis PistoleThe passing of a friend from earth to heaven should not go unnoticed. Hollis Pistole served as pastor in Marbury more than fifty years ago; I met him in Anderson in the late 1970s, when he was still teaching at the School of Theology, and have seen him regularly at annual meetings of the Church of God Peace Fellowship. We made it a point to get even better acquainted after I came to serve in a congregation he loved. Last summer he sat down for dinner with me at the annual School of Theology banquet in June. He was a pastor, teacher, peacemaker, scholar, and friend.

Good news!

Saturday, April 15th, 2006

[Edit: The following post was made just before Easter, 2006. While the specifics as to time and date are localized, the invitation to celebrate the mystery of Christ's ongoing appearance is appropriate for any time.]

Dear friends,

If your life has been anything like mine, you’ve been busy lately. I want to invite you to take some time for refreshment. Come to church! Tomorrow morning is Easter Sunday. Why not make it a point to celebrate with others the most awesome thing that ever happened on the history of our planet?

Jesus Christ is risen from the dead. The tomb is empty, and he is ready to meet with those who will follow him.

He’s been known to show up where his followers are gathered (John 20:19). To walk with them down a highway (Luke 24:13-33). To meet them for breakfast (John 21:1-14).

In Marbury, we’ll celebrate a community Sunrise Service at 7:00 AM in the Marbury Church of God sanctuary. I’d love to see you there!
You can even skip breakfast and come; we’ll follow the service with coffee, juice, fruit and pastries in our fellowship hall.

As always, Sunday School for all ages starts at 9:00 AM, with morning worship at 10:00. You can read Mark 16:1-8 and Acts 10:34-43 as preparation for the day’s message. Reminder to the church family: At offering time, special Easter Ministries Offering envelopes will be available for those who would like to give in support of the worldwide ministries of the Church of God.

That first Easter morning something happened which can still change our lives forever. Do you feel like something needs to change in your life? Has Jesus already changed your life? Is there more for him to do?

At the empty tomb,
In the upper room,
On the highway,
By the sea,
He will meet you there,
Meet your every care,
Give you peace,
And set you free.

Love,

Pastor Bob Buehler

New, Interactive format

Saturday, April 1st, 2006

How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who publish peace!

Starting today, April 1, 2006, I have decided to take down the static front page (it’s not really down; you can see it by clicking on the welcome item in the sidebar) and move to a more “blog-style” format, where the first thing you see when you come here is… you guessed it… the last thing that I (or someone) posted here. I’m doing this for the shameless purpose of increasing traffic on the site; why would you want to come back to a page that always looks the same? But I’ll post a variety of thoughts, biblical meditations, news events and comments, and occasionally links to things I find interesting, and you, dear reader (still with me?) are encouraged to post comments and reactions as you see fit. The rules: if you want to comment, please do so. Comments are moderated for first-timers, which just means I will read your remarks before anyone else does. If you register and get a password (and I have an idea who you are), I can set it up so your comments can be seen immediately, and even so that you can post on your own.

Legitimate topics for discussion:

The kingdom of God, its present meaning, how God is at work in the world today.

Helpful interpretations of biblical or other texts.

The search for integrity.

Matters having to do with the life and ministry of the Marbury Church of God, where I am pastor.

Matters touching on the history, doctrine, and common life of the Church of God (Anderson, IN).

Humor.

Bits of poetry, from time to time.

Appropriate Christian response to current events (although I don’t really want to go off on political tangents).

I’ll try to post something new here at least once a week, so please bookmark it and come back often. I look forward to seeing you in the Conversation.

Love to all! — Pastor Bob

A Kingdom mandate — Rev. Darrell Hazard

Tuesday, January 17th, 2006

On January 15, 2006, as part of a district-wide pulpit exchange, Pastor Darrell Hazard delivered the following message at the Marbury Church of God.

“A Kingdom Agenda”
(Matthew 3:1-3, Acts 1:1-3)
CDP Pulpit Exchange- Marbury COG, 1/15/06
 
 Today is an exciting day, because we are a part of something grand, something larger than just ourselves. Together with God’s people all over CDP, we are allowing ourselves to be part of a small but powerful witness about what the church should look like, and are opening ourselves to the great possibilities of what we can be as the Body of Christ.
 There are over 40 recognized churches in the CDP District of the Church of God. They are all different in makeup, constitution, polity, worship styles and preferences. There are predominantly Caucasian churches; predominantly African-American churches. There are Hispanic churches and Haitian churches; churches with male pastors; churches with female pastors; large churches, small churches; rural churches and ones in the city. We are part of a faith tradition that holds ‘unity’ as one of its hallmark tenets and doctrines. What is it, though, that unites us here in CDP? What is it exactly that we have in common?
 Is it how we do ‘church’? From my vantage point, I would say the answer is clearly and emphatically ‘no.’ In addition to the differences I just highlighted, there are deeper differences that are present in our district. There are theological differences on certain matters- such as the place of the gifts of the Spirit in the life of the believer; how often we should share in the Lord’s Table; the specifics on the Second Coming of Christ; the limits (or lack of them) on the authority that pastors and church leaders can wield in the life of the church.
 We could list and name many others, but our task today is not to catalog the areas where we might have differences, but to discover what it is that unites us across this broad spectrum. If we can discover what we have in common, we can stop bickering and competing among ourselves; we can stop being inefficient as we often put our energies into the wrong things; and most importantly, we can be an effective witness to a world and society that often hears our message and sees the inconsistency in what we do and wants no part of the ‘church.’
 So I ask again- what is it that binds us together? What is it that unites us today on this historic occasion? Is it how we do church? Or, dear friends, is it the call to a Kingdom agenda?  
 To many, church and kingdom are one in the same, but I beg to differ, and I believe I have a solid biblical foundation to stand on this morning. It is a true statement that not everyone in the church is a part of the Kingdom, but everyone who has entered the Kingdom is a part of the church. I use the word church today in the institutional sense- a place that is open on Sundays and perhaps Wednesdays where programs are available to the interested passerby. Many go to church, and think that God somehow gets a tear in his eye because we decide to show up and put a few dollars into the plate and give at least one ear to the preacher.
 Let me press my case a little further- many think of church as an end in itself; that a building with pews and a steeple and a choir and a preacher is the pinnacle of God’s self-disclosure and our responsibility as Christian disciples. The Scriptures and its recording of the life and ministry of Jesus do not bear witness to that myopic view that is strangling the life out of many churches. Let’s pause for a brief test: How many times do the gospel writers record Jesus using the word church? And how many times do they record him either using the word kingdom or referring to it by example or parable? The results might surprise you this morning- Jesus is recorded saying the word church just twice (Mt. 16:18, 18:17), but uses the word kingdom or refers to the kingdom over 100 times in the gospels.
 The Kingdom is quite simply the rule/reign of God, that is never static or stationary, but advances and takes territory. The rule/reign of God, though, is sort of an abstract understanding, since no one has ever seen God and lived. How, then, does God accomplish this non-stationary, ever advancing entity? The church is the vehicle for Kingdom advancement, not an end to itself- the mission of the church is not to preach to itself, to sing to itself, or to congratulate itself for hanging around for a number of years.
 The text(s) that we have read this morning are powerful and dynamic witnesses to this fact, and may we be challenged and changed by both the logos and rhema dimensions of Holy Writ. John comes on the scene with one message- not the ‘institutional church is at hand’ or ‘Glory be, Anderson, Indiana is at hand’, but “Repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand!” He is asking us to hearken to a new reality of relating to God, and by implication, says that if the old system were sufficient, I wouldn’t need to be out here in a loincloth, eating locusts and honey, and infuriating the religious leaders of the day. If the old system were sufficient, then a man named Nicodemus would have been just fine in his flowing robes and seats at the head of the table and the Rich young ruler would have been just fine with his Cadillac Escalade and house in a gated community.
 How often do we as the church stop with going to church instead of being the church? How often do we insist on the old way when a new and better way has come available? The church often enslaves and holds back, while the Kingdom promises freedom and liberty. The church often talks about what we don’t do, where we don’t go, who we are not, while the Kingdom inspires us to know who we can be. The church often separates and discriminates, but the Kingdom comes with a promise of destroying the middle wall of partition and making the two one, even when they had no knowledge of one another or desire to know one another.
 What are the dynamics of the Kingdom and how can we participate in this vision that calls us all to participate?
 The Kingdom is Announced: John went through the countryside heralding the coming of the Kingdom. Jesus appears to thousands, gave convincing proofs of his resurrection and spoke about all things concerning the Kingdom. The gospel and the good news of the Kingdom can only be received when it is heard, and it can only be heard when it is announced- we are to be the voice, the instrument by which the Kingdom is announced in a confused, pluralistic, even politically correct world.
The Kingdom is Advanced: Jesus said that from John’s time until the present, the Kingdom is being forcefully advanced and forceful people lay hold of it. This kingdom is not of this world, so it is not advanced by the sharp edge of a bayonet or at the barrel of a submachine gun or an atomic weapon, but through the greatest force available known as the Love of God. Are you a radical lover or are you satisfied with going to church? It’s something to think about seriously- are you advancing or are you retreating? Are you moving at the behest of the Commander-in-Chief or are you consumed with your own counsel? Enquiring minds want to know…
The Kingdom is Observed: Jesus- tell John what you see (Mt. 11); the blind receive their sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor. Paul- for the Kingdom of God is neither meat nor drink, but righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost! If we are involved in Kingdom work, it will be obvious and evident to those around us- this is not a secret society, but we are call to be light and salt, and light and salt are best observed in dark and stale places!
 
 It’s high time we rediscover our Kingdom agenda- I don’t care whether you are black or white; 5th generation Church of God or new right off the street; I don’t care if you like upbeat gospel or country gospel music; I don’t care whether or not you think speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of the Holy Spirit- John came with an inauguration message, and it was about the Kingdom of God; Jesus came with a resurrection message, and it was about the Kingdom of God. Our message in this selfish, hedonistic, materialistic world must be the same- the Kingdom of God, for it is what we all have in common.

Love Your Neighbor

Monday, September 5th, 2005

Pastor Bob

Monday, September 5, 2005

Thinking about what the preacher said Sunday (Romans 13:7-14):  

Pay everyone whatever you owe them. If you owe taxes, pay them. If you owe tolls, pay them. If you owe someone respect, respect that person. If you owe someone honor, honor that person.  Pay your debts as they come due. However, one debt you can never finish paying is the debt of love that you owe each other. The one who loves another person has fulfilled Moses’ Teachings. The commandments, “Never commit adultery; never murder; never steal; never have wrong desires,” and every other commandment are summed up in this statement: “Love your neighbor as you love yourself.” Love never does anything that is harmful to a neighbor. Therefore, love fulfills Moses’ Teachings.

You know the times [in which we are living]. It’s time for you to wake up. Our salvation is nearer now than when we first became believers. The night is almost over, and the day is near. So we should get rid of the things that belong to the dark and take up the weapons that belong to the light. We should live decently, as people who live in the light of day. Wild parties, drunkenness, sexual immorality, promiscuity, rivalry, and jealousy cannot be part of our lives. Instead, live like the Lord Jesus Christ did, and forget about satisfying the desires of your sinful nature.

In the modern world, we all see many more neighbors than we can really know.  It’s hard enough to love my family and friends, let alone a stranger.  How do I love one who is near, never mind one who is far?   How can I possibly love one who does wrong to someone else, even if I am prepared to forgive the one who has done me wrong?  For all these things I need God’s very presence, His warm and living care for me, without which all is just words with no meaning.  

PRAYER:  Lord, thank you that you loved me before I was in your family; that you loved me when I was a stranger, and you took me in; that when I was hungry, you gave me the bread of life; when I was thirsty, you gave me living water; when I was imprisoned by my own bad habits, you came to see me and set me free.  Help me to see, in every person I meet upon my own pathway, how much you want to do for them, just as you did for me.

Crossroads review

Friday, April 1st, 2005

A reaction/response to

Church of God At The Crossroads

by Dr. Gilbert Stafford

presented in a spirit of loving criticism by

Rev. Robert C Buehler
Pastor
Marbury Church of God
4825 Bicknell Road Marbury, Maryland 20658-2206

July, 2000

Introduction

This document is intended to be part of an ongoing internal "family" discussion among people associated with the Church of God (Anderson, Indiana). It is assumed that the reader of this paper has read and has access to Dr. Stafford’s book, Church of God at the Crossroads.

Let me begin by simply saying that I believe Dr. Stafford has done the church a great service by opening discussion on the issues he brings forth in this book. While it will become clear in this paper that I differ with his analysis at various points and with a few of his proposals, it would be the furthest thing from the truth to conclude that I do not respect, love, and admire Dr. Gilbert Stafford. I believe his points are sincerely made and that he, as much as I, loves our history, heritage, doctrine, and fellowship. I am the great-grandson of a pioneer woman preacher in our movement, and have absorbed much of that heritage through my pores. My grandparents on both sides were church planters in the early days of the twentieth century. My mother worked for Anderson College President Dr. John A. Morrison, and later as a Christian Education director at a local church before marrying and starting her own family. One uncle. Dr. Robert Clark, has been a missionary, pastor and educator in the church, another, Dr. Val Clear, was a scholar, teacher and thinker with considerable influence, and still another, Dr. John Buehler, served tirelessly for many years as both a teacher and a pastor. And though I went my own way for a few years, the church has welcomed me and provided me a home.

So let none of my comments be thought of as harsh or in any way antagonistic to Dr. Stafford personally, whom I have known for more than thirty years, nor to our anyone else affiliated with the Church of God (Anderson, IN). I agree that we are at a crossroads. Where we go from here, and why, is the question we must carefully consider.

I will follow Dr. Stafford’s outline and respond to him point by point. While most of these responses will be to material presented in the book, some may reference the presentation made at Reardon Auditiorium on June 21, 2000.

1. Challenges: Self-Understanding

Dr. Stafford addresses the question of whether it is legitimate to call ourselves a Movement, and rightly points out that "Movement" is a sociological, not a theological or a biblical word. While I am not married to this term, it seems important for a well-rounded discussion that we take note of some characteristics of a movement beyond what Stafford mentions. This will help us to determine if we are, or ever were, a movement in a real definable sense of that word. For him (p. 13),

"a movement is a group of people within a larger whole who are so motivated to bring about change in the larger whole that they are willing to commit themselves sacrifically to bringing it about. "

I want to suggest that this leaves out something critical about what a movement is: namely that a movement cannot be defined organizationally or as a clear-cut subset of any existing organization, but attracts followers without regard to pre-existing boundaries. Hence, for example, the Democratic Party is not a movement, though political movements may arise both within and beyond it. The recent resurgence of political conservatism in this country had the characteristics of a movement in the 1980s because it reached beyond the organizational limits of the Republican Party and embraced many Democrats, including those "New Democrats" who reshaped their party’s platform on more conservative lines in 1992 and thereby regained the presidency; whether it remains a movement in the same sense of the word is perhaps an open question as of this moment.

The point here is not to comment on politics but to point out that a movement of necessity crosses organizational boundaries. Did the Church of God, in its earliest decades of flying missionaries, dynamic regional campmeetings and "come-out-ism" do that? In many instances, it did. Do we do that today? This seems more difficult to assert.

Secondly, he rightly asserts that "Members of movements share a common vision." Certainly there was, at one time, a common vision driving this reformation, a vision of the Church and of our calling within it. It is that very vision which I find to be tragically absent from most of Stafford’s presentation.

The vision of the Church as both universal and local, both divine and human, both transcendent and visible, both manifest in the church’s local expression and at the same time fully defined by no local or human manifestation, a vision which sees the Body of Christ as an organic unity wherein each of us plays an important, even an historic role, making God’s Holiness visible in these last days — this is what drove the pioneers of the Gospel Trumpet Company and many others to make the sacrifices they saw so necessary in bringing about God’s plan. To these pioneers, the testimony "I have seen the church!" meant something profound and precious. And I am confident that no one, making such a testimony, was thinking of "the church" as being limited to or defined by any listing in any annual publication, but was more likely to think in terms of God’s Book of Life.

But let me make one thing very clear: to the extent that we define ourselves (as Stafford most explicitly did for his Reardon Auditorium audience) precisely and only as those local congregations which are legally recognized as affiliated with the Church of God (Anderson) by virtue of a listing in an annual publication, the Yearbook of the Church of God, we most definitely (again, according to such a definition) are not, and cannot be a movement. No movement is so narrowly defined, nor can any movement qua movement be defined in its membership by any centralized authority.

Now I understand that for the purposes of the discussion he proposes, Dr. Stafford has defined us, not theologically according to the vision referenced above, nor even sociologically in the broadest sense, but narrowly and organizationally exactly in terms of Yearbook listing. He begins with that, and then asks: Is this a movement?

No, of course not, we must reply. If, in order to know whether someone is a part of our so-called "movement" we must first check and see if they are listed in an official organizational publication, the answer must always be no. Defined as Yearbook listing, we are not a movement. More importantly, as I will argue later, defined in such a way we are not a church either, in any sense that is true to the biblical witness. The Yearbook is, after all, not a dynamic document, but a snapshot of who we say we are on say, August 1 of a given year. In a snapshot, nothing moves.

So I will give to Dr. Stafford his assertion that being listed in the Yearbook does not necessarily say much about a particular congregation. All it says is that through some process or other which may or may not be clearly defined, a regional credentials committee has declared that church to be "in harmony" with the Church of God and its annual General Assembly which meets at Anderson, Indiana. However, I do want to say a word or two about self-understanding and whether or not we as (at least) a fellowship of cogregations associating together, have something to offer to the church at large.

First I must question whether the thing we should be looking for is a "common religious culture" (p. 15) such as that which, according to Stafford, defines the way persons attending churches in various "church fellowships" (or what we used to call "denominations" — both terminologies that are at least as extra-Biblical and non-theological as our word "movement"). I’m not sure that commonality of religious practice makes for a healthy or a holy fellowship. It may make for a recognizable retail experience for religious consumers, but it is questionable to me if that is a desirable goal. Rather, unity of vision within a diversity of culture may be a much better thing for us, especially if we desire to be a movement that is a microcosm of what God’s whole church should look like. That, it seems to me, seems to be a better goal than becoming as recognizable in the outward forms of our worship as, say, the Episcopal denomination.

So to the question: "Do we, as a church fellowship, have anything precious that we hold in common?" I would steer away from attempts at answering this question which focus on such things as worship style and practice, or hymnody. But I would say, in agreement with some of what Stafford himself asserts later on, that we do have something precious. I would hold up two things in particular.

One: In our vision of the church (not as reported in the Yearbook, but as instituted by Christ) we hold to a doctrine that brings together unity and holiness. Holiness teaching, apart from an emphasis on unity, tends to divide, as individuals and groups can form highly idiosyncratic understandings of what constitutes real holiness. On the other hand, teachings on unity, apart from an emphasis on holiness, can reduce the church to a feel-good association where neither doctrine nor practice matters very much. By holding these two key doctrines in tension and in dialogue, we commit ourselves to an ongoing effort at living and understanding the larger truth that encompasses both. Being a living model of that struggle can be, and I would suggest already is, a way in which God has used and is using us to speak to the larger Christian movement.

Two: We hold to a doctrine of the Kingdom of God that is neither political nor exclusively futuristic, but which sees the Kingdom as having come in Jesus, still arriving through God’s present work in the world, and yet to come in fullness with the Parousia, the appearance of our Lord at the end of the age. We see the church’s ongoing task in every age as one of being involved in proclaiming and making visible the inbreaking of God’s kingdom in the present day.

With regard to this we are at something of a crossroads, however: having seen that the church-historical approach to biblical prophecy espoused by some of our more influential pioneers, with our movement as the culmination of history, is fading in its influence over the present generation of our people, do we allow it to be replaced by an even more spurious (but very popular) imaginative futuristic eschatology, which now fills the shelves of religious bookstores (including, I noted this year with dismay, our own Campmeeting tent) with speculative fiction? Or do we insist that even though some (not all) of our pioneers may have gone overboard on imaginative interpretations of their own, we will yet maintain the principle that God’s reign is for today, and prophecy has to do with us as individuals, and cannot be relegated to speculations about worldwide conspiracies and other convenient fictions which tickle the ears of those who would like to have some religious knowledge, without calling them to personal repentance, holiness, and love?

There is a paradox at work with regard to our sense of identity. Precisely because I take seriously the slogan/soundbyte of hymnodist C.W. Naylor, "We Reach Our Hands In Fellowship to Every Blood-Washed One," my sense of unity is not just a sense of being at one with so-called "Church of God" people, that is, people who know the same songs I do, identify with the heritage of my immediate forebears or, perhaps, can be identified through a listing in the Yearbook. Rather, I have a peculiar commitment, based precisely on this heritage, to the idea that I can be, in fact must be, one in spirit and worship with any group of people, however identified, that names Jesus as Lord.

Informed by a Church of God heritage, we have the ability to live out the unity that we preach, not in a religious ghetto characterized by a particular religious culture or set of doctrines or practices, but wherever the people of God may gather. Our challenge is: how do we rescue this particular heritage from mere sound-byte status, so that we can give it away, effectively, both to our children and to the larger church, and further, so that we do not unlearn the truth that has brought us this far, or even worse, learn from others to base our unity on matters of organization or worship style or culture or doctrine or hymnody, rather than on the Biblical vision of the church that, as our heritage teaches us, Jesus has called into being?

2. Challenge: Congregational Independency

The points that Dr. Stafford makes with regard to the problem of congregational independent autonomy are all well taken. I take it as a symptom of our having forgotten the vision of what the Church is, and borrowed (from, perhaps, the Baptists and others) a much narrower view which focuses on the local congregation as being the sum and substance of church life. Our pioneers had language, taken from the Book of Revelation, which allowed them to talk about this kind of phenomenon. If the Roman Catholic Church was identified as "Mystery, Babylon, the Mother of Harlots" then the Protetstant churches were seen as her "daughters", each individually partaking of her sins. Chief among these sins was the notion of what was called "man-rule", that is, the idea that some individual human being could be the "head" of any particular expression of the church. Persons who railed against Popes and then in their own turn set up pastors as supreme authorities within their own domains were seen as perpetuating the sins of "Babylon." But a church which recognized the Holy Spirit’s rule would set no man, or board or committee for that matter, in the place of God; rather mutual submission (a phrase we now replace with words like "accountability") dictated that all God’s people, including God’s pastors, recognize their need for one another and submit to one another in love.

Again, the remedy for the present circumstance is, in my view, a renewed lifting up of the Biblical vision of the church as God’s worldwide movement in which it is true of the whole, and not just of the individual congregational parts, that "when one member suffers, all members suffer together, and when one member rejoices, all rejoice together" (1 Corinthians 12:26). Only a vision of God’s church as a living organism will engender a true interdependence which does not have within it the shadows of humanly-dominated power structures which are characteristic of earthly kingdoms but not of the kingdom of God.

3. Challenge: Anticreedalism

Dr. Stafford is right to point out that the anti-creedalism of our pioneers did not reflect a disinterest in doctrinal matters; in fact, quite the reverse was true. But he reports to us only one dimension (albeit an extremely important one) of the pioneers’ discomfort with creeds, namely, that along with sectarian associations they represented the basis for unbiblical divisions within the Church. Surely it is true that, historically, churches and denominations have separated from one another based disagreements about official doctrinal statements. But I think there is another thing about creeds which bothered our pioneers; at least, this is what bothers me.

Our pioneers celebrated an experiential, first-hand faith. The best of creeds, if taken second hand, are merely statements of doctrinal opinion, and no set of doctrinal opinions will by itself give a person the saving experience of life of Christ, even though such a saving experience, combined with proper investigation of the Bible, may well produce a strong doctrinal persuasion! In this sense, then, the creeds were bothersome because they are not foundational enough. No doubt the historic creeds, when first formulated within what are now ancient cultures, were passionate testimonies of personal faith for those who articulated them. But as Jacob Boehme (1575-1624) says,

The confession or acceptance of a thing is not proper faith, much less [is] knowledge, but faith is that out of which the creed arises (emphasis mine)

Hence it is not just the tendency of the creeds as symbolic of historic divisions among Christians, but their nature as static documents which all too often serve to tragically substitute for a vibrant faith (just as membership in a denomination or "sect" also can serve to substitute for a real membership by faith in Christ’s own Church), which raised a warning flag for our beloved sound-byte generator, Brother Naylor, and others.

Now I agree that the problem of doctrinal drift is a real one, and I am not one to argue for a rigid legalism. I would caution, however, that in Dr. Stafford’s proposal of a third way there lies a hidden danger, embedded in some historical assumptions which we would do well do examine in an active dialogue. Specifically, I would like to raise the following questions for Dr. Stafford and anyone else who may want to respond:

Is the "historic Christian faith" to be defined by creeds which were articulated three hundred years after the the New Testament was formed? What would be the basis for holding documents devised in the fourth century, after Christianity had already very much changed in character from New Testament days, more sacred than those developed much later, say the Westminster Confession or some other "denominational" document? Or does the venerable sound-byte slogan of our heritage, "no Creed but the Bible" have something to recommend it still?

To the extent that, for example, trinitarian formulations are to be found in the New Testament, I am happy to embrace them, and in fact do so in my own preaching and teaching ministry. In fact for myself I can say an "Amen!" to the words of the so-called Apostles’ Creed, as one example of a venerable (but, strictly speaking, not Biblical) testimony of faith. But as a minister of the Gospel in our heritage, it is still my earnest desire to help people come to a saving knowledge of Christ. Having them come to a intellectual agreement with a third party’s testimony is not for me a reliable measure of whether or not we have achieved that goal. And I do also take it that there may be those whose understanding of their own journey from death to life in Christ does not yet allow them to say a full "Amen!" to all parts of particular documents which were formulated by fourth century theologians. I would rather look for the life of faith than for the trappings of intellectual agreement, as a basis for practical fellowship in the church. (But see my comments below on matters related to credentialing ministers)

4. Challenge: Behavioral Codes

I find Dr. Stafford’s analysis here to be on target. Shared behavioral standards can arise within a particular faithful community (local congregation) as the message of the Gospel is lifted up. Particularly as attention is paid to putting the teaching and example of Jesus, and the implications within and beyond the church of the love of God for all persons, into the daily life of individuals and families in all interpersonal relations, the community of faith itself becomes a place where the faithful meaningfully dialogue with the text, and can thereby overcome both extreme legalism and unaccountable do-your-own-thingism. Well said.

5. Challenge: Consumerism

Well said. Agreed.

6. Challenge: Worship

Good analysis. All worship should and must be first about God, about Christ’s living presence, and only secondarily (or less) about style, presentation, etc. Almost any form of worship, music style, any way of structuring a worship service can be "sanctified" and blessed by the presence of the Holy Spirit.

7. Challenge: Ministerial Credentialing

Here is one arena where I find Dr. Stafford and I are on the same page. A tremendous responsibility lies with our credentials committees, and therefore with all of our state and regional ministerial assemblies, to "lay hands on no man suddenly" and exercise great care in the conferring of ministerial credentials. In my view, there is absolutely nothing wrong (and a good deal right) with the idea of requiring candidates to read and respond to a standard list of doctrinal books; to be familiar with the history and heritage of the Church of God and its unique setting within the various cross-streams of the Christian movement (about which more later); and to indicate their position on matters of doctrine and practice that have historically been of high importance to us. I believe that exercising strict care at this level will actually serve to preserve and protect the openness and inclusiveness that is itself a part of our heritage. The reason for this is that a proper inclusiveness is one that is founded on a real understanding of Jesus Christ, the resurrection, the Church, the present Kingdom of God, the role of the Holy Spirit, the nature and effects of salvation and of holiness; and is not to be found in, for example, a tendency to ride the popular bandwagon about unusual manifestations or speculative end-time doctrines.

Let me provide just one example of how a group can be extraordinarily inclusive in its ministries while maintaining high standards for its leadership. The Salvation Army is a group which is very inclusive in its outreach and ministy, such that it is world renowned as a humanitarian agency even though it is actually a religious denomination with strict doctrinal views and a very tight, exclusive leadership structure. Anyone can contribute to the Salvation Army; anyone can benefit from its ministries or volunteer time to support them; but not just anyone can lead and teach the principles which form the core impetus for the organization itself. Similarly, at the level of leadership I believe it is not at all inappropriate, and in truth may be quite beneficial, to apply a much higher standard than we would at the level of fellowship.

8. Challenge: Mobility

This section is about three things really: the mobility of our society and the challenge we face in providing consistent teaching to our people from place to place; the problem of teaching our congregations to provide Christian hospitality; and the question of whether we can instill in our people enough of a theology of worship that they will gather on the first day of the week, as the earliest Christians did, to celebrate the resurrection of the Lord even though it was a workday and not recognized as anything special by the larger culture. It seems to me that it is not just within our particular fellowship, but generally in North America these challenges exist. However, I do suggest that strong teaching about the nature of the church, consistent with our heritage, is something that can help us meet each of these challenges.

First, since we teach that when a person becomes a Christian they without any second step gain membership in God’s church, this means that it is to be expected as the norm that when one is traveling, there can be a fellowship of people who are prepared to welcome the traveler as someone who is already a member among them. This is what happened in the case of traveling ministers in the New Testament, reported simply with words like, "some disciples" were there (e.g., Acts 19:1, 21:4). Our teaching about church membership is a precious doctrine, showing that just as our salvation is by faith, and our sanctification is by faith, so also is our membership in one another. In dynamic reliance on the Holy Spirit we accept one another by faith as Christ does, and not by any "test of fellowship" (remember those old words?). A real ongoing dynamic teaching about the nature of the Church, as Christ’s Body not just in its local manifestation but among "all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord" ( 1 Cor. 1:2) will go a long way toward meeting the challenges posed by mobility, just as it did for the highly mobile Paul and his associates in the first century.

Do other churches, movements, or fellowships now teach this?
Yes, some do. Is it part, then, of the generic "saving gospel of Jesus Christ" spoken of back in Chapter One, and thus not to be pointed to as a distinct contribution for us to make to the whole church? Well, I believe it is in fact a part of that saving gospel, and that it is a part that is perhaps less neglected generally today than it was a hundred years ago. Yet, to the extent that these mobility issues are a problem, there is room for it to be lifted up even more. I would suggest that we demonstrate how "Church of God" we are precisely by how well we can, based on our proper theological understanding of the church, participate with a worshiping congregation that calls itself Presbyterian, or Episcopalian, or Methodist, or whatever, without needing ourselves to become Presbyterians or Episcopalians or Methodists, because we recognize that to whatever extent that congregation is composed of believers in Christ and worships in "spirit and truth" it is and should be recognized (by us, at least) as "Church of God." And I further suggest that the ability to go about in such a way within the larger Christian movement demonstrates how "Church of God" we are, perhaps more than our tendency to associate only with congregations that can be found listed in our Yearbook.

Section Two: Opportunities

I applaud Dr. Stafford for this section and urge that it receive a wide readership. I especially want to draw attention to the three arenas of our pivotal positon, multicultural diversity, and women in ministry. Of these three the first deserves a special note.

First, I would almost have wanted to see this issue of our unique position within the various streams of Protestant Christianity discussed in the Challenges section, for the simple reason that to the extent that we have begun to lose sight of our heritage, the tensions between these several components tend to be resolved in favor of one at the expense of the rest. Indeed, perhaps that tendency is at the core of some of the concerns that were brought out in the Challenges section, particularly under the topic of our identity or self-understanding. I am concerned that Evangelicals in general understand little of the Holiness tradition, less of the Anabaptist tradition, and can be overtly hostile to anything that smacks of the Ecumenical tradition; yet the danger of us becoming absorbed into the larger culture as a loose collection of more or less Evangelical congregations causes us to drift toward a participation in that collective form of ignorance or amnesia. Our rootage in the Wesleyan-Holiness tradition on the one hand, and the Anabaptist/Believers Church tradition on the other, as well as the theological basis for our passion for unity, must be actively taught to incoming generations of leaders, or the warnings of the first chapter of Stafford’s book may take hold.

Section 3: Possibilities at the Crossroads

It is at this point in Stafford’s presentation that I must pause to take serious issue with his mode of setting up his presentation. At issue, for me, is precisely the vision of the church which I spoke of earlier, and which I understand to be the driving passion behind our movement (when it was a movement) and the only legitimate rationale, in my view, for us to continue to exist as anything other than a "loosely collected association of churches."

On pages 55-56, Stafford sets up the problem with these words:

The church can be considered from at least two points of view. The first is to look at the institutional life of the church from the first century down to the present. ….. the second way to think about the church: the church that is pleasing to God.

Now, let me say quickly that of course, being pleasing to God is something that we do want to be concerned about, and much of what Stafford follows with is worthy material. But look at how he sets up his argument. First, what he presents as "at least" two points of view become, in his actual presentation, the ONLY two POSSIBLE points of view under discussion. And, he makes the second a subset of the first. In other words, according to Stafford’s presentation, THE FUNDAMENTAL NATURE OF THE CHURCH IS ITS INSTITUTIONAL OR "EXTERNAL" MANIFESTATION. And for him, the problem that presents itself is precisely the problem of how we are to be an INSTITUTION that pleases God.

With respect, my dear brother, this is all wrong. It may be a nice sociological analysis, but it is a departure from Scripture of a much more radical nature than the use of a word like "Movement" to describe what we once saw, and would like to see again, God doing among us.

A steeple, however symbolic, does not tell me where the church is. Christ’s Spirit does not reside in a building with a steeple, and may well be busy manifesting in some place which is not so easily located or identified.

Christ’s Spirit resides in people, not in buildings, organizations, institutions, or cultures. The church of God is not an institution. It is a living organism, a Body, a living witness to the living Christ. If we cease to proclaim this with every fiber of our being, then we might as well try to find out what sort of a political, organizational entity we want to be, but we are already far from being pleasing to God.

When I see this kind of language propounded as the basis for serious discussion, I have to give thanks to God once again for the way in which our pioneers rightly proclaimed themselves unqualified to organize God’s church, and were careful to distinguish between God’s activity in setting the members in place as it pleases Him, and our activity, admittedly fallible, in organizing the "work" of the church. Now I think that what Dr. Stafford means when he talks about the institutional life of the church is the various attempts made through history wherin people set up institutions and structures, each initially intended to be obedient to God in getting the necessary work done, whether of evangelism, caring for the poor or the sick, teaching, or whatever. But because, beginning in the fourth century (about the time that some of the "historic creeds" were promulgated) there came about an institutionalization of the church which married it, in its most visible aspect, to the political structures of the day, diluting the spiritual message of the gospel, and, according to the analysis of most of our pioneers, driving the true Church of God into an underground existence for many hundreds of years, many of the institutions which arose in the guise or under the name of Christianity had characteristics which were much more of the nature of "the kingdoms of this world" than those of the kingdom of Christ. Therefore I submit that beginning our view of the church with a look at its institutional, external life, to the exclusion of all else, will bring us to a flawed analysis and a limited range of options which eclipse the powerful spiritual vision of the church of the living God: a church which depends not on human institutions but on the power of the Gospel for its very existence.

Okay, okay. I know that Dr. Stafford told us at the beginning that he is only talking about the Church of God as defined by Yearbook listing, namely in terms of its own institutional life. No doubt, he will agree with me about all this spiritual vision stuff, and politely and patiently want to kindly point out that I’ve just pretty much missed his point. But this also is, in some measure, my point. If we are reduced to talking about ourselves as a church among churches, that is, "church fellowship" among "church fellowships" (or, as I read that, a "denomination" among "denominations" - let’s call them like we really see them, please), namely, a flawed human institution among flawed human institutions, so be it; but let us then find some nice marketable name for ourselves and quit confusing the issue by taking upon our little group God’s own Name.

But if we are to talk about the church of God, let’s talk about the church of God, about the church that consists of all the saved in heaven and earth, the church that in actual fact is visible wherever two or three gather in the name of Jesus; that is visible to those who look not on what is seen but on what is unseen. Let’s stop claimng that we ARE the church of God, perhaps, but let’s find the courage to say that we BELIEVE in God’s Holy Church, and it is NOT, NOT, NOT an INSTITUTION that we believe in, but rather the LIVING FELLOWSHIP of all in every place who call upon the name of the Lord. Let’s do that loud and long, boldly and without apology, and then see whether or not we really need to worry about growing up enough to become like the Presbyterians or the Episcopalians in this or that detail.

Now I believe that if we recover enough of our message to be able to proclaim without apology the true nature of the church, all of the recommendations Stafford makes about what a "church that is pleasing to God" entails will apply to us and will follow logically from our convictions. But please, let us not lose sight of what the Church really is, or let our worries about our "institution" — or even observations about seemingly great historic institutions — become more important to us than God’s holy Church.

One of the things that I have always loved about being part of the Church of God is that when people ask me what church I belong to, it is an immediate opening for me, not to make some denominational reference, but to present the Gospel. It should never be easy for us to tell people, by reference to some human institution, what church we belong to. The question of church should always, for us, be a Gospel question, and a Biblical question, not an institutional question.

The last two sections, Guidelines and Concluding Comments, I will leave for further comment at a later date. On many of these practical matters I am in agreement. But just as "no other foundation can be laid than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ" (1 Cor. 3:11), and just as surely as it is on this foundation (the apostles and prophets, with Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone, Eph. 2:20) that the Church itself is built, we cannot have a practical discussion of where we go from this crossroads without a solid theological foundation concerning the nature of the church.

There is a profound paradox for us here, perhaps best captured with the words of Jesus: "Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel’s the same shall save it" (Mark 8:35). Might not that apply specifically to our institutional life? If we seek to save our institutional life by coming up with ways that religious consumers can distinguish us through specific practices of religious culture, thus making us easily distinguishible in outward apperance from other so-called "church fellowships", do we not thereby make ourselves practically indistinguishible from them in a more fundamental sense, placing our priorities on matters of appearance and practice rather than on the great truths revealed to us through the Word of God? But if, on the other hand, we are willing for the sake of Christ and the Gospel to acknowledge that our special heritage which "sees the church" belongs to the Gospel itself, and to the whole Church, and if we remain true to that vision even though it means letting some of our cultural distinctiveness and separate identity fade into the background — might that not in fact bring us back into focus and allow us to be once again a leading voice calling God’s entire movement to more complete understanding of and faithfulness to that vision?

To bracket aside that solid theological foundation in favor of a seemingly more practical "institutional" view of the church will serve only to cause further drift in a direction away from what is best in our heritage. — because it would be a drift away from Biblical truth. We should rather be looking for ways we can lift up that vision of "a glorious church, without wrinkle or spot or any such thing" ( Eph. 5:27) and striving through personal and corporate holiness to be, in microcosm, God’s church, that is to reflect in our practical life together, the characteristics of the true, living, holy, church of God.